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Post 1 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 28-Mar-2007 8:34:54

Are drug dealers evil or are the junkies just weak.

And is an addictive personality a justifiable excuse

Does it even exist.

Should the goverments legalise drugs such as heroin ect,
and invest the money into the health service.

Post 2 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 28-Mar-2007 8:47:21

the thing with drugs is, if somebody just can't turn around and say no, they are just weak

Post 3 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 28-Mar-2007 9:11:51

Is it always so clear cut?
What if 1 brother is doing cocaine, and the younger brother is curious as he sees only the high not the withdrawl and he tries it.

this is often how younger younger children get hooked.

Post 4 by Raskolnikov (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Thursday, 29-Mar-2007 16:24:29

If the governments of this world legalize drugs such as heroin then who will be held responsible for all the murders that drug abusers commit in order to get money to purchase their drugs? This might be beneficial to the economy but in the end won't it just resemble a viscious cycle? Legalizing drugs won't make drug abusers wealthier or healthier, it'll just take the money out of the hands of the dealers. You see, drug abusers, those who are empoverished , will use whatever money they get from the government (or from any other source) to get high, so the government won't only take the position of the drug dealer but also it will become the enabler of the abuser. And who knows what will become of the wealthy drug abuser? lol And it seems rather stupid for the governments to supply something as harmful as heroin and other such drugs and at the same time place the money into the health services that will care for the users. What would be more economical: legalizing drugs, or offering drug dealers courses on how to care for their customers? This would make them appear less evil wouldn't it? lol What will the governments do to solve the problem of addiction? How will they know what to do: make the drugs less addictive, or educate the users about drug use? And if it can't be determined if such a thing as an addictive personality exists, then why the heck would anybody want to make any decisions based on this uncertain factor? Maybe drug dealers count on their customers having an addictive personality, but it would seem rather abusive and unlawful for the governments of this world to act upon this same excuse. Does the drug contain an addictive chemical, or are users inclined to want more and more and more? Perhaps the argument can be made here that if a human being remained throughout his lifetime ignorant of drugs, then he would never encounter a struggle with addiction. Who knows?

Okay, let's just say that drugs were legalized, and that before distributing them the governments took measures to make them less addictive, let's just say that this were to happen some day; what would guarantee that users would not abuse these "modified" drugs in the same way prescribed drugs are abused? The goods of chemists working in illegal drug labs will be sought again by the addicts as chemists in pharmacies will not provide the good stuff. lol And this is assuming that drug dealers will surrender their position without a fight. it might work though in prison. I'll leave this question for you to wrestle with. lol

Some say that drug use is a choice, and that there is no such thing as addiction. If a person is abusing a drug, then the responsibility lies in his/her own hands. But then you have crack babys who will die if their body doesn't get a certain amount of the drug their parent used. So: is there such a thing as addiction? Maybe. In my opinion, there is such a thing as an addictive personality and I base this on the many people who throw their lives away when they choose to use drugs. They can't quit even though they see the destructive consequences all around them. It's like commiting suicide in slow motion. And can you imagine being robbed by a junkie? Just put yourself in the shoes of a guy whose every thought is "I need it! I need it!" Frightening!

So, in conclusion, leave things as they are is what I say! Attempting to clean up such dirty problems of our societies will not end in success, ever! That's just the way things are when dealing with human beings. You'll most likely get better results by improving drug abuse resistance education for today's youth, scare the little bastards out of using drugs. lol Boy, this was great fun!

Post 5 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 30-Mar-2007 8:35:55

Good points I didn't think it through.. bugger
There are plans in britain, to have heroin on prescription,to be available from GP's surugeries only. Personally it's a good idea in theory but I can't see it working in practise...who wants to sit in a room with a bunch of junkies.

Raskolnikov the addict often fails to come off drugs because the effectiveness of alternatives, such as methadone, have been shown to be hit and miss..plus the addicts who want to get clean find themselves up against an intransigent disintetrested health service, who are increasingly unwilling, to treat addicts. It's a lottery as to who gets help and who is left to die.

Post 6 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 30-Mar-2007 8:39:00

Hmm look at the adverts of diseased lungs used to scare children out of smoking, when you're a child you think your untouchable and nothing can hurt you.
For instance HIV/AIDS, passed on by sharing needles, hasn't stopped addicts from helping themselves to each others syringes.
And it hasn't prevented a rise in cases due to unprotected sex among hetro couples, who assume the virus has died off.

Post 7 by forereel (Just posting.) on Friday, 30-Mar-2007 12:53:05

I invite you to study history such as prohibition that have been legalized and also other governments that legalized drugs then decide what you think. People will get their fixes no matter what laws are in place. Legalizing drugs or at least taking the crimenal part away from using them would help the user seek help if they chose and help with the over populated prison systems troubles. Making them available is another story.